Marketing Sucks

Marketing Sucks is the podcast for business owners who are looking for practical, fun, and strategic ways to get noticed online, and don’t want to sit through 30 minutes of filler to get to the good stuff.

Each week, Grind Social Media + Co founder Amanda Casinha sits down with the industry’s most interesting and unconventional ad experts, funnel developers, content creators, and changemakers to explore their off-the-beaten-path strategies and experiences in the world of marketing and business — and dig into real stories of failures, strategies, and how they got their jaw-dropping results.

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Growing a Brand with your Spouse / Living in Portugal

July 22, 2025 • Amanda Casinha-Ginther • Episode 68

We’re flipping the script! This episode of Marketing Sucks is a collab with the Love Saranghae Podcast. Hosts Peter Lee and Andrea Mourad have Phil and I in the hot seats, and we keep it R-E-A-L while discussing marriage, business, and what can happen when you mix the two.

During this conversation, Phil and I share what it’s really like to grow a successful brand with your spouse on your own terms. Tune in as we dig into the nitty-gritty of balancing ambition with freedom, building a life and business that supports our love of travel, and why you need to let yourself feel the fear when faced with bold choices (and then make them anyway). We also get into our day-to-day experiences of working from Portugal each summer and why this annual trip became a non-negotiable family goal.

Marketing sucks. Let’s learn together. Hit play to discover:‌ ‌

The 9-month plan that shaped our decision-making leading up to our first summer abroad
How to train your clients to manage their expectations while you’re traveling
How to set smart boundaries that protect your relationship (in and out of the office)

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Guest host bios: Andrea Mourad and Peter Lee are the co-founders of two award-winning Korean skincare companies: Saranghae Skincare and Orora Skin Science. Partners in life and business together, they are on a mission to share their journey through the exciting world of entrepreneurship, relationships, and the secrets behind achieving that coveted healthy glow.

Timestamps:‌ ‌

00:11 Intro

01:11 Meet us!

03:09 Why summer in Portugal?

07:30 Triggering moment

10:16 Feel the fear, do it anyway

12:31 9-month plan

16:35 Summer workdays

21:27 Conscious trade-offs

25:04 Working together

33:32 Finding your brand voice

41:42 Living life on your terms